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Deep Gap, North Carolina to Rock Gap North Carolina
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Overnight Backpack Trip
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Data Updated: Monday, April 9, 2012 2:35:40 PM
Trip: Appalachian Trail

Deep Gap, NC to Rock Gap, NC - Overnight Backpack Trip
Status: Confirmed & Planning

Trip goes rain or shine, unless weather conditions will be severe or extreamly wet.
Date: April 27 - 29, 2012
Trip Host: Jeremy Landers
770-861-8175
Location: Appalachian Trail

Macon County NC
Clay County TN
Cost: Carry cash for fuel sharing.
Difficulty: Strenuous
(Elevation gain 1,157 ft in 2.5 miles, 460 ft elevation gain in 0.2 miles)
See options below for day hike difficulty
Length: Complete Hike
20.7 Miles over three days
8.5 Miles on Day 1
6.8 Miles on Day 2
5.4 Miles on Day 3




Optional Day Hikes Only

Below you will find several options for day hikes ranging in difficulty from easy / moderate to strenuous. If you are interested in any of the options below please let Jeremy know so we can work on the logistics on meetups.

Friday:
Friday Option #1:
Hike with us from Deep Gap to Standing Indian Shelter. Approx 1.6 mile moderate round trip hike.

Friday Option #2
Hike with us from Deep Gap to summit of Standing Indian Mountain, enjoy lunch & views, then turn around & head back on your own to Deep Gap. Approx 5 mile round trip strenuous hike. (Elevation gain 1,157 ft in 2.5 miles)
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Saturday:
For those interested in a remote and rather strenuous day hike, this option is a possibility depending on Forest Service Road Conditions. 3.2 mile round trip hike from Mooney Gap USFS 83 to the summit of Albert Mt and back. (Elevation gain 829ft in 1.6 miles). Fire Tower with excellent views.

NOTE:
If you are meeting us on Saturday it will be VERY critical that you be at the appointed meetup location on time. We will not have daylight hours to wait for your arrival beyond the appointed time. Please let Jeremy know as soon as possible if you are considering this route. Access is from a diffrent Forest Service Road and we will need to do some research and plan access logistics.
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Sunday:
Hike in on your own from Rock Gap Parking Area USFS 67 (Paved) & meet up with us at Glassmine Gap or whenever you encounter us and complete the hike with us. Approx 5.2 mile round trip easy to moderate hike.

Blaze: White Rectangle (Appalachian Trail)
Departs From: Quillians Corner Chevron
Departure Time: 6:30 am Meet up at Quillians Corner
6:45 am Departs Quillians Corner Chevron
Meals: Bring adequate food for 2 breakfasts, 3 lunches, 2 dinners as well as any snacks. You should be prepared to properly store your food overnight to prevent critters & bears from getting your food supply.

(Click Here For A YouTube Video On How To Hang A Bear Bag)

Odor Proof Bags can be purchased at www.simpleoutdoorstore.com
These bags work great!

Please note: ZipLoc bags are NOT odor proof! However using regular ZipLoc bags inside of a larger Odor Proof Bag is a great way to cut down on cost and keep your food separated!

Transportation: POV's with carpooling, or drive on own. If you need transportation you can post an email to the hike group email list.

(Always be prepared to drive your own vehicle if necessary. If you carpool, fuel costs should be shared.)

Car Drop at Each Trail End
GPS Info: The GPS files & related links below are provided as a courtesy. Pleases verify all route & waypoint information before headding out on the trail.

To decompress the Zipped files, you will need a decompression program, such as UnStuffit, WinZip or PKZip.

Deep-Gap-To-Rock-Gap.gpx (April 2012)

Other Sources

http://www.trimbleoutdoors.com/ViewTrip/1066370


GPS / GIS Data From ATC
USGS Quad:
Ranger District: Nantahala Ranger Dist. Nantahala National Forest, Formerly the Wayah District .
Schedule: DAY 1

6:30am Meet at Quillians Corner Chevron

6:45am Dept. Quillians Corner Chevron

7:00am McDonalds Cleveland, Ga

7:15am Depart McDonalds

8:00am Restroom break Hiawassee, Ga.

8:15am Depart Hiawassee, GA

9:00am Arrive at Rock Gap (Vehicle Drop)

9:45am Arrive at Deep Gap Trailhead

10:00am Safety Briefing & Begin Hike

10:45am Standing Indian Shelter

11:50am Standing Indian Mt.(Day Hikers Turn Back) LUNCH

12:30pm Depart Standing Indian Mt.

2:15pm (Day Hikers arrive back at Deep Gap & depart for Gainesville)

2:45pm Beech Gap

4:15pm Coleman Gap

5:00pm Junction with Blue Blazed Timber Ridge Trail on Left

5:30pm Carter Gap Shelter

8:16pm Approx Sunset

--------Setup camp, filter water, cook supper, etc.... Bed!

DAY 2

8:00am Breakfast, Clean up Breakfast, Re-Supply Water, Break Camp, etc....

9:30am Depart Carter Gap

10:45am Unmarked trail to right leads to vista

1:15pm Betty Creek Gap LUNCH

2:00pm Mooney Gap USFS 83 Campsites (Day Hiker Meetup?)

3:00pm Bear Pen Gap

3:15pm Junction with Bear Pen Trail & Albert Mt. Bypass Trail

4:00pm Summit of Albert Mt. Firetower with views

5:00pm Big Spring Gap Shelter

--------Setup camp, filter water, cook supper, etc.... Bed!

6:00pm (Day Hikers Return to Mooney Gap USFS 83 & return to Gainesville)

8:17pm Approx. Sunset


DAY 3

8:30am Breakfast, Clean up Breakfast, Re-Supply Water, Break Camp, etc....

10:00am Depart Big Spring Gap Shelter

11:30am AT Crosses Stream

12:00pm Glasmine Gap (Meet Up with Day Hikers) LUNCH

1:30pm Unreliable Spring,

2:30pm Junction with Rock Gap Shelter Trail

2:40pm Arrive at Rock Gap Parking Area, load vehicles

3:00pm Depart Rock Gap.

3:45pm Pick up vehicles at Deep Gap (If needed)

4:15pm Arrive at intersection of Deep Gap Road & Hwy 64

5:00pm Hiawassee, GA (Supper - Optional)

5:30pm Depart Hiawassee

6:15pm Cleveland Ga - Restroom Break

6:20pm Depart Cleveland

6:40pm Arrive Quillians Corner Chevron


All times are approximate and are subject to change without notice!

Trail Description:
Miles by Day Miles
To Rock Gap
Miles From Deep Gap Trail Description GPS
(Locations are approximate & unverified)
8.5 20.7 0.0 Deep Gap, NC (4,341 feet) parking area USFS 71 the AT exits to the east of the parking area between two logging roads.

Note: Kimsey Creek Trail Leads left 3.7 miles to Standing Indian Campground. (Blue Blaze)
35.039818,
-83.552368
8.1 20.3 0.4 Spring to west, Campsite (4560ft)
7.7 19.9 0.8 Standing Indian Shelter (Privy), Left of Trail , Stream. Continue climbing on grassy road. (4,760ft) 35.041733,
-83.547997
7.3 19.5 1.2 Spring (4837ft)
6.1 18.3 2.4 Trail to spring on left. 100ft further junction with lower Ridge Trail (Blue Blaze). To right trail leads 600ft to summit of Standing Indian Mt. (5498 ft) Campsites on summit trail. To left trail leads 4.2 miles to Standing Indian Campground. 35.036133,
-83.537498
4.2 16.4 4.3 Spring (4939ft)
3.2 15.4 5.3 Beech Gap (4,460ft), Clearing with campsites (7 Tents). Seasonal water100ft to right of trail. To left Beech Gap Trail (Blue Blaze) leads 2.8 miles to USFS 67. Continue on mostly level trail & cross several streams 35.009998,
-83.525734
2.1 14.3 6.4 Stream (4405ft)
1.4 13.6 7.1 Coleman Gap (4226ft) 35.005432,
-83.509949
.04 12.6 8.1 Junction with Timber Ridge Trail on left (Blue Blaze) (4635ft). This trail leads 2.3 miles to USFS 67, 4.4 miles south of Standing Indian Campground (Campsite 2 Tents nearby) 35.002899,
-83.499016
0.0
--
6.8
12.2 8.5 Carter Gap (4520ft), Level area with campsties. Blue Blazed Trail to left leads to Old Carter Gap Shelter. The new shelter is on opposite side of trail.150 ft behind old shelter is reliable spring. Begin ascent to shoulder of Ridgepole Mt. 34.999920,
-83.497020
6.3 11.7 9.0 Stream (4766ft)
5.7 11.1 9.6 Spring (4933ft)
5.4 10.8 9.9 Bear left on Little Ridgepole Mt.
5.1 10.5 10.2 Trail to right leads approx. 25 feet to great vista.
3.1 8.5 12.2 Betty Creek Gap, (4300ft) clearing with campsites (4 Tents). AT continues through clearing. Spring 0.2 mile to left of clearing via blue blazed trail & USFS 67 aprox 6.3 miles on Betty Creek Gap Trail. 35.0281479, -83.4784895
2.2 7.6 13.1 Mooney Gap, (4496ft) USFS 83 Ball Creek Rd. Trail crosses road. Campsites. To right road leads to Coweeta Hydrological Lab and US 441 To left leads to USFS 67. Trail leaves wilderness area. 35.035782,
-83.470398
2.1 7.5 13.2 Spring above trail. After crossing culvert trail angles left & up some log steps leaving old road begin ascent.
1.9 7.3 13.4 Trail Crosses above cliff while climbing steep rocky east face of Big Butt Mountain, views into Coweeta valley below.
1.3 6.7 14.0 Bearpen Gap. USFS 67 nearby 35.046848,
-83.471535
0.9 6.3 14.4 Junction with two trails on left (blue blazes). (4841ft) Bear Pen Trail goes straight left across USFS 67 then descends to USFS 67 (2.5 miles). The bypass (Blue Blaze) around Albert Mountain turns right and follows the road. Continue straight on AT and climb the steep, strenuous, rocky southern side of Albert Mountain.
0.6 6 14.7 Albert Mountain Summit (5,250 ft), Firetower with views 35.052700,
-83.477501
0.4 5.8 14.9 Junction on left with Northern end of Albert Mt. bypass trail (Blue Blaze) (5040ft) Reliable spring 1,000 ft down bypass trail.
0.0
--
5.4
5.4 15.3 Big Spring Gap.(4973ft)
Blue Blazed trail to left leads 250 ft. to Big Spring Gap Shelter. (Privy, Cables) 75ft beyond shelter is water.
Downhill to right is Little Pinnacle Trail (Blue Blaze) leading to Coweeta. Also to right is 0.2 mile trail to overlook on Pinnacle Mt. AT turns slightly left.
35.059032,
-83.478630
4.1 4.1 16.6 Long Branch Shelter (2012) (4503ft)
Not sure if this shelter is active yet
3.4 3.4 17.3 AT crosses stream.
2.6 2.6 18.1 Glassmine Gap opens in a small clearing. Blue Blazed Long Branch Trail descends to left 2.3 miles to USFS 67. 35.079449,
-83.507187
1.6 1.6 19.1 Unreliable spring to left of trail. Several campsites & unreliable water sources within the next mile or so.
0.1 0.1 20.6 Junction with Blue Blazed Rock Gap Shelter Trail. 300ft to Shelter & two springs. (Privy, Cables) (3787ft) 35.091534,
-83.523018
0.0 0.0 20.7 Parking area at Rock Gap.(3757ft)
Paved USFS 67 leads left one mile to Standing Indian Campground. To right 0.5 mile Wallace Gap. Side trail to right leads 1.7 mile (RdT) to the John Wasilik Memorial Poplar. (This tree, now dead, is the second largest yellow-poplar in the United States, with an 8.6-foot diameter and a 27-foot circumference).

AT bears to right.
35.094234,
-83.522453
Equipment Requirements: Please note this is a multi day / overnight hike. Each hiker is responsible for providing their own gear (tent, sleeping bag, cookware, food, clothing, rain gear, food storage, first aid, etc....). If you need assistance with equipment please contact one of the co-chairs.
Hunting Season: Please note that it will be Firearm Turkey Hunting Season in North Carolina while we will be hiking.
General Notes: Walk at your own pace!  Try to walk with someone when possible and try to stay in sight or sound of the main group which means the lead hikers may need to slow or stop to let the rear hikers catch up. This is a good reason to carry a whistle on you at all times. Lead hikers should stop at all trail intersections to let everyone gather before moving forward.

If you need a potty break while on the trail, just let someone know you are leaving the trail for a few moments and have that person wait nearby until you return. If you should feel ill or become weak while hiking, let Jeremy or Marsha know immediately. Do not push yourself forward on the trail under adverse conditions. One of us will work with you to maintain your safety. If you have any medical concerns that need to be known, be certain a hiking partner or Jeremy/Marsha know about any issues that could require immediate attention.

Carpoolers should share the cost of fuel when returning to their base location.

If you have any questions regarding the logistics for this hike, please contact Jeremy Landers. If you are signing up to hike or have transportation issues, contact Jeremy Landers.  More info on our hiking plans can be found at:  www.LandersStudions.com/gechike

PLEASE - DO NOT CONTACT THE CHURCH OFFICE REGARDING THE HIKES. THE CHURCH OFFICE DOES NOT HANDLE OUR PLANS NOR ROSTER FOR THIS ACTIVITY. CONTACT JEREMY OR MARSHA DIRECTLY.

Marsha:  Email
Jeremy:  Email or (770-861-8175 Cell)
Marsha
HIKE  AT  YOUR  OWN  PACE - BUT  HIKE  WITH  A  PARTNER  OR IN  SIGHT  OR  SOUND  OF  YOUR  GROUP  FOR  SAFETY.
Links & Ref. North Carolina Ranger Districts

National Forest Service Alerts - NC

Nantahala National Forest - Wayah District - Motor Vehicle Use Map- PDF
Photos
(NOT GEC Hike Group)
Click The Link's below for Photos / websites I found for other people's hikes

Site 1

YouTube Video of Albert Mt. - Part 1 - Part 2

Rainwater Family AT Through Hike (No connection to Grace but they are currently in the area we will be hiking)

Photos by
GEC Hike Group
Map Nantahala National Forest - Wayah District - Motor Vehicle Use Map- PDF

Interactive AT Map from the ATC

Directions: Deep Gap -- Reached via highway US64 and USFS 71. Follow US64 East past Hayesville, NC, make long climb up mountain, and near top of second climb, watch for sign for FS71 on right. FS71 is a 6-mile single-lane gravel road, normally quite passable for autos. Follow FS71 to parking area at end; the AT crosses through this parking area. To go South on AT, head West out of parking area -- to go North, head East.

Rock Gap Parking Area -- From US 64 turn right onto Old Murphy Road "Old 64" turn right on paved USFS 67, then 0.5 mile south to parking area.
Reservations: Contact Jeremy Landers
770-861-8175

Deadline: Sunday April 22, 2012 - 5pm


*Special Notice Regarding Hikers Under 18 Years of Age!

Post Trip Review:

*Special Notice Regarding Hikers Under 18 Years of Age!


Please take a moment to read the Participation Guidlines prior to hiking with the Grace Church Hike Group.

Additional Info For All Hikes
Information provided by Marsha Conner

ICE  INFO
(In Case Of Emergency)

We are now carrying ICE forms with us for safety. The hike planner will
be responsible for being sure these cards are on the trail.  A form in a
sealed yellow envelope with critical contact and medical data on each
hiker will be available in case of emergencies.  You are required to fill
out the emergency contact information however the medical information
is optional, should an emergency arise, this data would go with you for
medical treatment and provide contact information for your relatives
and medical information at the ER that should be known.  Many of us have
ICE phone numbers in our cell phones, but our cell phones may not work
in some wilderness areas.

WHAT  TO  CARRY
You should be self-sufficient on the trail. Do not plan to borrow items you
do not have from people hiking with you. They may not have what you need
or they may need it for themselves. Carefully look over the trail description and
map before going, ask questions, and make sure that you are physically able to
handle the terrain, the temperatures, the possible wetness, and the other
interesting things that might happen to us while on the trail! As always we
set our hiking pace to accomadate everyone. So don't think you'll be too slow.
Jeremy & Marsha are always willing to help you to be trail ready.

1.  Daypack
2.  Water/Fluid Supplies
3.  Food/Snack Supplies
4.  Cash and Photo ID (ID should be on your person at all times)
5.  Other Outdoor Supplies
6. 4 AA Batteries to use in our walkie talkies.

1.  Packs:
a.  Plan and pack for medical emergencies including
     blisters, bug bites, allergies, cuts, etc.
b.  At least one snake bite kit (Sawyer style) should be
     with the group (sold in most sporting goods depts).
c.  Weather change needs such as poncho, emergency
     blanket, cap, gloves, wind jacket, etc.
d.  Cell phone (in case it might work) and other
     items important to you for personal safety or comfort

2.  Water/Fluid Supplies
a.  Plan on carrying a cooler in your vehicle with ice to keep
food and fluids cold throughout the trip
b.  Carry enough fluid with you for the designated trail hike
c.  Do  Not  Drink  Water  From  Streams - most mountain
    water is no longer safe to drink as they may contain
    protozoan imps and make you very sick

3.  Food/Snack Supplies
a.  Short hikes may only require a light snack
     on the trail (1-2 miles) - plan accordingly
b.  Longer hikes usually require a moderate
     snack on the trail (3-4 miles) - plan accordingly
c.  Remember that your appetite is enhanced by
    being outdoors and doing physical activity

4.  Cash and ID
a.  Carry bills in different increments especially "ones"
     for park entrance fees and incidentals - each
     person is responsible for their own fees and should
     share any group cost for parking and fuel
b. The cost of fule is to be shared between driver and
passengers.
c.  For your safety, have your ID with you on the trail at
all times.
d.  Do not leave valuables in your parked car which you
    cannot afford to have stolen!

5.  Other Outdoor Supplies
a.  Camera, Flash Card(s) or film
b.  Binoculars
c.  Sun hat
d.  Knife and compass
e.  Extra socks if prone to blisters
f.  Bug spray
g.  Sting relief especially if you are
     allergic to insect stings
h.  Hiking pole or sticks
i.   Sweat towel and/or bandana
j. Large Pepper Spray (for animal attacks and personal protection)


6. Hunting Season
Remember your Blaze Orange During Hunting Seasons.

UPON RETURNING HOME

1.  Critical - Shower and check your body - CAREFULLY -
     for ticks (if a tick has attached itself to your skin, do
     not crush its body while removing it, but lift it away
     from your skin and pull out by the legs - treat the area
     properly and watch for any redness - if redness appears
     seek medical attention promptly)

2.  Clean and treat any wounded areas of your body -
     use ice for first 24-48 hours on joint/muscle injuries
     and heat as swelling subsides

3.  Consider keeping a log of your hiking experiences and
     write your story in a journal while memories are fresh

4.  Develop pictures and share copies with your hikers

GENERAL  GUIDELINES  TO  REMEMBER

1.  Leave pets at home if hiking with a group. More Info

2.  Keep groups on the trail to no more than 4-6 together

3.  Walk single file in the middle of the trail

4.  Step to the side of the trail as you go downhill
     to allow hikers going uphill to have the right of way

5.  Do not wade with your boots on unless necessary
     Wet socks and shoes can create immediate blisters

6.  Swift water can cause you to lose your footing in
     6-12 inches of water so do not be fooled that you
     can wade without danger across a stream

7.  Snakebites are a critical concern to hikers
     THINK before putting your hands and feet anywhere
     that might be a place of hiding for a snake:
     a.  Step on the top of logs - not over them
     b.  Use your hiking pole to check on the backside
          of logs and rocks before sitting down
     c.  Stay on the trail where visibility is better

8.  Read the many different theories on protection
     from bears and other wildlife - bears are most
     aggressive when protecting their cubs and stay
     near water and food sources frequently - bears
     do not "growl" but will make a "grunting" noise
     to let you know they see you when you may not
     see them - stop, back away slowly, and move
     back down the trail without hesitation - do not
     mistake a "grunting" noise for random woods noise
     on a trail as it may only be made one time to give
     you one chance to back away. Carry a large pepper spray.

9.  Let members of your hiking group know your intentions
    in case you decide to return to the parking lot or leave
     for the day. 

10. Remember that the GEC Open Hike each month will
     have a mixed skill level and cooperation as a team is needed.
     The monthly planner has volunteered to set up the hike
      and there may be slight differences with each hike.
      There is room for both the scenic hiker and the extreme
      hiker with good communication and proper planning.

More information on Hiker Safety can be found at the following websites.
Georgia State Park Safe Hiking Tips

http://www.redcross.org/services/hss/tips/hiking.html


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